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Post by Diablo. on May 7, 2012 19:32:34 GMT -5
Alex does have a point. Games such as Pacman, Pong, Half-Life 2, Portal, Final Fantasy VII, Tetris, BioShock, Grand Theft Auto IV, Metroid Prime and GoldenEye 007 were all missing from this, all of these feature in those GOAT countdowns...
I'm not arguing with the eight MicroStop decided, but I think going with eight games rather than sixteen or thirty-two meant a lot of games that could even be considered above the ones in this tournament were neglected.
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Post by Hurricane on May 7, 2012 19:41:38 GMT -5
Really disappointing to me that NONE of the games in this tournament were "Greatest of All Time" with the exception of Halo and Zelda or even close but for this case I'll say GTA. Halo is the most overrated game of all time Bullshit. It had a thrilling, amazing storyline. Epic cinematic scenes and really defined Xbox as a whole. It was THE game to make people realise "Holy shit, there's a new generation!". Just because you don't like it personally, doesn't mean it's overrated. I dislike Sonic, but I'd never say it's overrated. Weird seeing Ben rage! He was one step from throwing bologna at pepsiguy.
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Post by King of Kings on May 7, 2012 19:42:06 GMT -5
Alex does have a point. Games such as Pacman, Pong, Half-Life 2, Portal, Final Fantasy VII, Tetris, BioShock, Grand Theft Auto IV, Metroid Prime and GoldenEye 007 were all missing from this, all of these feature in those GOAT countdowns... I'm not arguing with the eight MicroStop decided, but I think going with eight games rather than sixteen or thirty-two meant a lot of games that could even be considered above the ones in this tournament were neglected. Right, I agree that there were a lot of games that could've been considered for being iconic but to say that the games on the list aren't worthy of being GOAT at all? That's just ignorance.
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Post by King of Kings on May 7, 2012 19:43:24 GMT -5
Halo is the most overrated game of all time Bullshit. It had a thrilling, amazing storyline. Epic cinematic scenes and really defined Xbox as a whole. It was THE game to make people realise "Holy shit, there's a new generation!". Just because you don't like it personally, doesn't mean it's overrated. I dislike Sonic, but I'd never say it's overrated. Weird seeing Ben rage! He was one step from throwing bologna at pepsiguy. I just felt it was unnecessary to say that other than Halo and Zelda, the games on the list aren't worth of being called "Greatest of All Time." I'm not even gonna waste my bologna on that kind of talk! ;D
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Post by Diablo. on May 7, 2012 19:44:14 GMT -5
Alex does have a point. Games such as Pacman, Pong, Half-Life 2, Portal, Final Fantasy VII, Tetris, BioShock, Grand Theft Auto IV, Metroid Prime and GoldenEye 007 were all missing from this, all of these feature in those GOAT countdowns... I'm not arguing with the eight MicroStop decided, but I think going with eight games rather than sixteen or thirty-two meant a lot of games that could even be considered above the ones in this tournament were neglected. Right, I agree that there were a lot of games that could've been considered for being iconic but to say that the games on the list aren't worthy of being GOAT at all? That's just ignorance. Not ignorance. This was deciding THE greatest of all time and to be missing games such as the ones I listed does de-value the idea of the greatest, because it's assuming all of these are the eight greatest, which is far from true. Halo is the most overrated game of all time Bullshit. It had a thrilling, amazing storyline. Epic cinematic scenes and really defined Xbox as a whole. It was THE game to make people realise "Holy shit, there's a new generation!". Just because you don't like it personally, doesn't mean it's overrated. I dislike Sonic, but I'd never say it's overrated. This.
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Post by King of Kings on May 7, 2012 19:49:44 GMT -5
Right, I agree that there were a lot of games that could've been considered for being iconic but to say that the games on the list aren't worthy of being GOAT at all? That's just ignorance. Not ignorance. This was deciding THE greatest of all time and to be missing games such as the ones I listed does de-value the idea of the greatest, because it's assuming all of these are the eight greatest, which is far from true. But, they are among some of the greatest of all time. Super Mario World, Donkey Kong Country, Metal Gear Solid, Halo: CE, Zelda: Ocarina of Time, Pokemon, GTA: San Andreas, and Fallout 3 are some of the greatest games you can play. Games that you mentioned (and nominated) and some other games could've been included but again, saying that the above games that were initially entered into this tournament are not among the greatest of all time, or not eligible to be considered the greatest of all time, is IMO ignorance. If a game like...Superman 64 was on the list or something I would agree but these games are all amazing. Metroid, Sonic, Bioshock, Dead Rising, Super Smash Brothers, Red Dead Redemption, GTA IV, Gears of War, and others all should've been included but weren't because it was dropped down to 8 (which was done because I knew that right as I started to do this I'd be losing a lot of my free time and not have as much time to organize this tournament) Maybe a round two in the future where the winner faces the winner of these finals...but again I retort, I think that saying that none of the games other than Halo and Zelda are worthy of being GOAT is ignorant on pepsiguy's part.
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Post by Hurricane on May 7, 2012 19:51:27 GMT -5
Diablo, you realise this is just a fun, casual competition thing on a tiny forum? Gosh, why so serious
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Post by Diablo. on May 7, 2012 19:52:56 GMT -5
Diablo, you realise this is just a fun, casual competition thing on a tiny forum? Gosh, why so serious Me serious? I'm just passing time waiting for class. Maybe if I used more smileys, I'd seem less serious.
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Post by Hurricane on May 7, 2012 19:55:08 GMT -5
No, you were saying the tournament was de-valued, as if we have some prestigious notoriety in the video game community to upkeep haha.
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Post by pepsiguy2 on May 7, 2012 19:55:35 GMT -5
You can neglect my vote, I really don't care.
Games have evolved, and because they are amazing classics that doesn't make them better than they're evolved form.
I'd hardly say Super Mario World would be better than something like Mario Galaxy or Super Smash Bros.
Halo CE is not the best game either, but it's still a game that defined a genre.
Games like Mass Effect, Portal, Half-Life, Street Fighter,Batman: Arkham, Later Zeldas, etc should not be excluded from a GOAT list, especially when the list is at 8 games only.
These games are all really good, but hardly GOAT.
When a game like Pokemon Gold/Silver, when there have been arguably better Pokemon games is at the END of a GOAT vote, that's really sad.
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Post by Diablo. on May 7, 2012 19:59:12 GMT -5
No, you were saying the tournament was de-valued, as if we have some prestigious notoriety in the video game community to upkeep haha. ' Yeah, fair point. I was just defending Alex's point.
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Post by AC on May 7, 2012 20:03:12 GMT -5
Halo is the most overrated game of all time Bullshit. It had a thrilling, amazing storyline. Epic cinematic scenes and really defined Xbox as a whole. It was THE game to make people realise "Holy shit, there's a new generation!". Just because you don't like it personally, doesn't mean it's overrated. I dislike Sonic, but I'd never say it's overrated. Weird seeing Ben rage! He was one step from throwing bologna at pepsiguy. I actually liked the first one but everyone after it looked and felt like the same exact game every time. I played a little of 2 and 3 and couldn't get into them.
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Post by King of Kings on May 7, 2012 20:04:10 GMT -5
You can neglect my vote, I really don't care. Games have evolved, and because they are amazing classics that doesn't make them better than they're evolved form. I'd hardly say Super Mario World would be better than something like Mario Galaxy or Super Smash Bros. Halo CE is not the best game either, but it's still a game that defined a genre. Games like Mass Effect, Portal, Half-Life, Street Fighter,Batman: Arkham, Later Zeldas, etc should not be excluded from a GOAT list, especially when the list is at 8 games only. These games are all really good, but hardly GOAT. When a game like Pokemon Gold/Silver, when there have been arguably better Pokemon games is at the END of a GOAT vote, that's really sad. Fuck yeah Pokemon Gold/Silver deserves to be there. You just said that Halo defined a genre, I guess you don't realize what Pokemon Gold/Silver did for that entire franchise. Breeding, Day/Night, Genders, Varient Pokemon, etc were all because of that title. Super Mario World isn't better than Super Mario Galaxy? Because of why? Galaxy has prettier graphics? That's just moronic. There's no other word for that. Games weren't EXCLUDED, they were fucking chosen and nominated. You had an option to nominate whatever game you wanted, why didn't you? I for one, did nominate Super Smash Bros but it didn't make the cut as other games received far more nominations. HELL, in my original fucking graphic, what's right there front and center? Super fucking Smash Bros. As far as I'm concerned though, you have no room to complain about what games weren't in this because you didn't even bother nominating anything. So please don't come in here, criticizing a tournament's entrants when you didn't bother having any influence on them. As Hurricane said, it's a small time tournament on a message board. If I thought that anyone would have any reason to bitch about it, I wouldn't even fucking bother. It was to get some positive interaction going.
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Post by AC on May 7, 2012 20:04:22 GMT -5
You can neglect my vote, I really don't care. Games have evolved, and because they are amazing classics that doesn't make them better than they're evolved form. I'd hardly say Super Mario World would be better than something like Mario Galaxy or Super Smash Bros. Halo CE is not the best game either, but it's still a game that defined a genre. Games like Mass Effect, Portal, Half-Life, Street Fighter,Batman: Arkham, Later Zeldas, etc should not be excluded from a GOAT list, especially when the list is at 8 games only. These games are all really good, but hardly GOAT. When a game like Pokemon Gold/Silver, when there have been arguably better Pokemon games is at the END of a GOAT vote, that's really sad. You do realize its just for fun, right? It was a tournament according to people here and what they liked, not the entire world.
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Post by Hurricane on May 7, 2012 20:13:34 GMT -5
You can neglect my vote, I really don't care. Games have evolved, and because they are amazing classics that doesn't make them better than they're evolved form. I'd hardly say Super Mario World would be better than something like Mario Galaxy or Super Smash Bros. Halo CE is not the best game either, but it's still a game that defined a genre. Games like Mass Effect, Portal, Half-Life, Street Fighter,Batman: Arkham, Later Zeldas, etc should not be excluded from a GOAT list, especially when the list is at 8 games only. These games are all really good, but hardly GOAT. When a game like Pokemon Gold/Silver, when there have been arguably better Pokemon games is at the END of a GOAT vote, that's really sad. You have to use perspective. These "evolved" games would not exist without their predecessors. A game made in 2012 can not be compared to a game from the 80's in terms of graphics/freedom/etc. You have to compare their influences, originality, landmark features, etc. Super Mario Bros more than justly compares with Galaxy in those aspects. By your logic, bias aside, Eragon is much better than Lord of the Rings. Bullshit. It had a thrilling, amazing storyline. Epic cinematic scenes and really defined Xbox as a whole. It was THE game to make people realise "Holy shit, there's a new generation!". Just because you don't like it personally, doesn't mean it's overrated. I dislike Sonic, but I'd never say it's overrated. Weird seeing Ben rage! He was one step from throwing bologna at pepsiguy. I actually liked the first one but everyone after it looked and felt like the same exact game every time. I played a little of 2 and 3 and couldn't get into them. None of us were talking about Halo 2 or 3 though, that's the Halo series, not the game haha. I do agree, however. I like them, but it seems like the same game as the last with a few new weapons and slightly better graphics.
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