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Post by King of Kings on Jul 23, 2011 13:20:28 GMT -5
Did I read that right? SPZ is the number one contender for the World Title?
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Post by AC on Jul 23, 2011 13:44:41 GMT -5
Did I read that right? SPZ is the number one contender for the World Title?
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Post by Diablo. on Jul 23, 2011 15:35:07 GMT -5
Well, he earnt it fair and square by proving he is the better microer out of us two. Regardless, I retire after MS20.
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Post by MJH on Jul 23, 2011 17:14:35 GMT -5
hate to be a dick but simply beating diablo shouldn't earn spz a title shot.
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Post by Gav on Jul 23, 2011 17:16:43 GMT -5
hate to be a dick but simply beating diablo shouldn't earn spz a title shot. I concur. I beat Diablo while he was champ and I didn't even think of asking for a title shot. I didn't want one. So while SPZ did good to get the win, he's not title shot worthy yet.
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Post by AC on Jul 23, 2011 17:19:09 GMT -5
Yeah I thought that was odd as well
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Post by Diablo. on Jul 23, 2011 17:21:54 GMT -5
hate to be a dick but simply beating diablo shouldn't earn spz a title shot. I concur. I beat Diablo while he was champ and I didn't even think of asking for a title shot. I didn't want one. So while SPZ did good to get the win, he's not title shot worthy yet. With all due respect, you got title shots against CMC without "earning them". I was the number one contender to MJH's title, however having been beaten by SPZ, by logic he becomes the more worthy contender.
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Post by AC on Jul 23, 2011 17:24:06 GMT -5
Where's my god damn title shot?!
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Post by MJH on Jul 23, 2011 17:25:39 GMT -5
fine, ac vs. spz winner gets a title shot against me. Spz getting lucky once doesn't warrant title shot.
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Post by AC on Jul 23, 2011 17:26:24 GMT -5
lol I was only joking. I don't want a title shot
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Post by Diablo. on Jul 23, 2011 17:33:28 GMT -5
Spz getting lucky once doesn't warrant title shot. That could be said about any number one contender. Hell, even my MITB win at MicroMania earlier this year was a fluke, yet I undeservedly stole the World Championship off of CMC. That's the beauty of all this MJH, luck is sometimes all you need.
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Post by eclipse on Jul 23, 2011 17:34:37 GMT -5
haha I'd be down to get a title shot out of nowhere against spz
But really, I'm way too picky with the stipulations and that just ruins the fun, when somebody is picky like that XD
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Post by Gav on Jul 23, 2011 17:34:39 GMT -5
I concur. I beat Diablo while he was champ and I didn't even think of asking for a title shot. I didn't want one. So while SPZ did good to get the win, he's not title shot worthy yet. With all due respect, you got title shots against CMC without "earning them". I was the number one contender to MJH's title, however having been beaten by SPZ, by logic he becomes the more worthy contender. In the last 6 years there have been a huge amount of times where I could have gone for the world title on merit alone, but I chose not to because I either felt I wasn't quite ready or I wanted to have something to aim for in the long term, rather than win it too soon. Any shots I have received in the last year have been because I have worked my way up into being one of the most respected veterans here (I'd like to think so anyway.) It's like the Undertaker getting a title shot every other year in a way. I also do not prevent other worthier people from getting title shots. Those ones against CMC came at a time when he wasn't really involved in anything against others. If someone else is clearly the best contender then I'll put them ahead of me.
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Post by Diablo. on Jul 23, 2011 17:41:46 GMT -5
With all due respect, you got title shots against CMC without "earning them". I was the number one contender to MJH's title, however having been beaten by SPZ, by logic he becomes the more worthy contender. In the last 6 years there have been a huge amount of times where I could have gone for the world title on merit alone, but I chose not to because I either felt I wasn't quite ready or I wanted to have something to aim for in the long term, rather than win it too soon. Any shots I have received in the last year have been because I have worked my way up into being one of the most respected veterans here (I'd like to think so anyway.) It's like the Undertaker getting a title shot every other year in a way. I also do not prevent other worthier people from getting title shots. Those ones against CMC came at a time when he wasn't really involved in anything against others. If someone else is clearly the best contender then I'll put them ahead of me. SPZ has been here longer than me. Without a world title shot. He beat the number one contender, I am giving him my contendership. But no, rather than let the kid have one go for the title, you'd rather brush him aside and have others go for it? This isn't a fucking free-for-all, he beat me, I am surrenderring the contendership (which I earnt in no way, may I add, it was simply given to me, which in itself now I think about it seems like a whole lot of bullshit) to the guy who beat me. You want to talk about unworthy guys getting title shots? Hello, right here! I didn't deserve to win Money in the Bank, Haasamaniac should have won. I didn't deserve to defeat CMC the way I did, he deserved a fair match. Yet, I am allowed to do this, and SPZ can't have one fair match with the champion?
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Post by Gav on Jul 23, 2011 17:49:19 GMT -5
I'm not saying he should never get a shot. I just don't think it's right for the #1 contender to decide to pass it along to someone who happened to beat him without discussing it with the current champion and the people who run the shows, namely Cane. Simply beating a person in one MBL doesn't hold a huge value. By your way of thinking, let's say SPZ becomes the new contender. Then if myself and AC beat him and Cane in our match does that put us both above SPZ in line?
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